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WHOA WHOA WHOA.
excuse me.
But the minimum wage is set for teenagers with first jobs/ college students TO GET EXPERIENCE. Because a higher paying job isn’t going to higher you unless ypu have experience. AND YOU GET THAT EXPERIENCE BY WORKING AT MINIMUM PAYING JOBS. and the higher paying jobs are harder jobs which is why they get more money.
If you raise the minimum wage, then companies wont have the money to pay more employees so they look for the people with the most experience…
So if companies can only higher people with experience and you dont have any because companies DONT HAVE THE MONEY TO PAY YOU??
well then you are never going to get a job.
And when the minimum wage goes up, the price of everything goes up.
And then we have the minimum wage earners complaining again.
So stop saying that the minimum wage needs to be raised because it doesnt.
What needs to happen is we need a better economy and thanks to obama, thats not going to happen for a while because obama doesn’t know what hes doing.
So if you want to make more money, get experience and a better paying job.

You’re a shitty economist buddy.

Less than 15% of minimum wage worker’s are teenagers (age 14-19), the rest are adults aged 20 and over (85.7%). So lets stop pretending that these jobs are meant for students. The economy is shit and unfortunately, people have to settle for low wages because the alternative often is unemployment.

Higher paying jobs doesn’t equate to ‘harder jobs’. Often, the higher a position is, the less labor you are required to do.

"And when the minimum wage goes up, the price of everything goes up."

Inflation doesn’t necessarily work that way. Obviously, you’re just regurgitating the bullshit theories conservatives spew out while disregarding the statistics and history that proves otherwise. But since you’re using that argument, why not raise the minimum wage with the rise of inflation? Or productivity even?

If we had raised the minimum wage with the rise of productivity since 1968, it would currently be $21.72. In other words, we are creating far more and producing more profit for corporations, while being paid for a third of what we use to.

What do you have to say about that?

And raising the minimum wage to $10.10 will raise 1.7 million families out of poverty and reduce the need for them to use public assistance, saving the federal government $7.6 billion per year. Would you say you’re you against that?

The current federal minimum wage is $7.25. In none of the 50 states is that enough money to pay the average rent for a 2-bedroom apartment.

The minimum wage used to be able to keep a family of 3 above the poverty line. Now, the minimum wage can’t even keep a single parent working 40 hours a week, for an entire year without a single day off, above the poverty line.

When you raise the minimum wage, you’re putting more money into the pockets of the lower/working class. Their money is directly put back into the economy when the buy food, pay bills and generally spend their money. As oppose to higher paid people who have the luxury of saving their earnings. That means that businesses will generally make more money because the working class has more money to spend.

That’s my argument for raising the minimum wage, I would love to see your attempt to counter it.

*applauds tumblr user anarcho-queer*

It’s refreshing to see someone talking about the minimum wage who actually knows their shit, unlike the first commenter here.  Congratulations, my friend.  But I still feel the need to share this personal story:

I’ve worked at minimum wage before, and let me just tell you, it’s a very hard job with hardly any benefits, and, at 20 years old, I was one of the youngest people there.  Most of my coworkers were adults in their 30s and 40s, several of whom were trying to balance two min wage jobs on top of raising a family.  The bosses at corporate HQ made a lot of money out of exploiting us, and several times I watched them get away with BREAKING THE LAW and couldn’t say anything about it - if I had, I would have lost my job.  (Restaurants can get away with paying servers far less than minimum wage on the hope that they’ll get enough tips to make up the difference.  It’s illegal, but they do it anyway.)

I’ll never forget the day I saw my coworker break down crying in the middle of the store, because she had made less than min wage that week, and therefore didn’t have enough to feed her children.  Min wage workers are not just teens looking for extra cash, they are people trying to make a living, and the current minimum wage is FAR LESS than a living wage should be.  Raising it would do a world of good for a lot of people - it would literally be lifesaving for some of them - and it wouldn’t hurt anyone at all.  So next time you feel the need to argue that the wage doesn’t need to be raised?  Shut the fuck up and actually pay attention to the working classes for once.

We won’t stop until the Earth is free.

see this?  yeah, this is why I hate capitalism.

"The minimum wage is far less than a living wage should be"
Thats because it wasn’t meant to be lived off of?? And the fact that it is being lived off of isn’t a pointer that we should raise it but we should get more jobs and fix the economy. Thats a long term fix. That benefits EVERYONE not just the working class.

"It wouldn’t hurt anyone at all"
I am assuming you two, @anarcho-queer and @songbirsofliberty have the right to vote.
I dont. I cant vote. Because I am a minor and I am terrified that the minimum wage will be raised. All of my friends? Dont want the minimum wage to be raised. Why? Because we would like to get first jobs. We want to get experience so that in the future, we can have better jobs. However, raising the minimum wage would cause a decrease in young workers. Because if employers have to spend more money on their workers they want the experienced. But if kids are never having that first job? Hmm. Not such a great idea after all, huh?

Not to mention that raising the minimum wage would only be a short term fix. It would have to be raised again.
What is raising the minimum wage going to fix?
Nothing. Not really. You say all these things about how people will be able to live off of it, etc. But what about all the problems? And the fact that this isn’t the first time this has happened.
There are better solutions then raising the minimum wage.
If we want to “free the earth” we need to create jobs. Only then will everyone be truly prosperous for a long time. The people living on minimum wage would be able to get better jobs and I think thats a far better solution. The CEO’s worked to where they are. They started at the bottom. Thats what is great about America is that if you are in a bad position you can change it. But in this economy, you cant.
Fix the economy dont raise the minimum wage.

Since you know how to “research,” let me just borrow the following from the 1930’s as referenced here: http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/2014/03/07/f-d-r-makes-the-case-for-the-minimum-wage/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

In the more than 75 years since Congress first enacted a federal minimum wage — at 25 cents an hour — lawmakers have increased it nine times, reaching the current level of $7.25 an hour in 2009. And with every increase the same objections have been raised.

Today, instead of dismantling these arguments on my own I decided to get a little help from President Franklin Delano Roosevelt, who had to fight Republicans, conservative Democrats, the Supreme Court and corporate leaders to pass the initial minimum wage in 1938.

Objection: Raising the minimum wage will hurt business and reduce employment.

“No business which depends for existence on paying less than living wages to its workers has any right to continue in this country.” (1933, Statement on National Industrial Recovery Act)

Objection: $10.10 an hour is too much, maybe $9.

“By living wages, I mean more than a bare subsistence level — I mean the wages of a decent living.” (1933, Statement on National Industrial Recovery Act)

Objection: Once you add in public assistance and tax credits, $9 an hour is plenty, and business could survive that.

“Do not let any calamity-howling executive with an income of $1,000 a day, who has been turning his employees over to the Government relief rolls in order to preserve his company’s undistributed reserves, tell you – using his stockholders’ money to pay the postage for his personal opinions — tell you that a wage of $11.00 a week is going to have a disastrous effect on all American industry.” (1938, Fireside Chat, the night before signing the Fair Labor Standards Act that instituted the federal minimum wage)

Objection:   The minimum wage is a government mandate that interferes with the free market.

“All but the hopelessly reactionary will agree that to conserve our primary resources of man power, government must have some control over maximum hours, minimum wages, the evil of child labor and the exploitation of unorganized labor.” (1937, Message to Congress upon introduction of the Fair Labor Standards Act)

It took five years from F.D.R.’s first inauguration in 1933 to enact the federal minimum wage. The period encompassed “Black Monday” on May 27, 1935, when the Supreme Court invalidated the new labor standards in the National Industrial Recovery Act of 1933, and “White Monday” on March 29, 1937, when the Court reversed course by upholding the minimum wage in Washington state, setting the stage for passage of a federal version.

Today, with census data showing that one third of Americans are either in or near poverty, the arguments in favor of an adequate  minimum wage are still compelling. The difference is that the minimum wage has gone from being a bold advance  in labor law to a basic tool for broader prosperity, albeit one that Congress has failed to deploy fully. That is a shame. What F.D.R. said in 1938 about establishing a minimum wage is also true about raising it: “Without question it starts us toward a better standard of living and increases purchasing power to buy the products of farm and factory.””

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